MySpace Opener

[Bravo1]

Been field testing this one for the last few weeks, and my boys have been doing the same. So far 100% success rate, did run into 1 AMOG but put him in his place.

I have learned so much from the MM that I want to try and give back, hopefully this is the first of many.

This is also from a true story that only happened after getting into all of this ( after a few days I did respond, after I Iso'ed her that night I knew she was into me, and been having LOTS of fun with her, nice little 20 yr old red head ).

This worked out amazing 2 times when as I walked by/or was at a table next to them I heard Myspace come up.

Usually my boy is opening up another set, and I run with blah blah, only have a min. /need female/outside opinion. Here ya go...


We were all at this kick ass restaurant, well the other night I was there with a my friends guys/gals, and our waitress was SMOKING HOT REDHEAD, and seemed cool as hell. Well through out the night I was working my Mojo, laying it on REAL thick(laughing/smiling this always gets them smiling), and we were really hitting it off, and at the end of the night I was very close to getting her number, but didnt because I thought mabye there was a chance she might of been acting for a bigger tip. Well we pay, my friends paid cash and I paid with a credit card and leave, I just figured next time I am in there I will see how it goes and THEN get her number. Well 2 days later I get a message saying how cool we all were especailly ME and how much she would like to meet me from her on MYSPACE. Apperently she copied my name off my Credit Card and looked me up!!!???

Usually this is when they all kinda freak and go OOOO thats CREEPY or thats so cool or whatever. Then I say I havent responded and dont know if I will.

Then I get into if a GUY does this is it is a STALKER MOVE (crazy how many girls have told me that they had guys do shit like this when I bring this up), but if a girl does, it is OK?? Then I bring up how that is a double standard. I also bring up how it is not really HER fault, I mean LOOK AT ME! She had NO control!!!

The 1 AMOG I ran into asked me right when I finished the opener, "How old are you" I say what? He repeated and I said why do you want to know???

He says" ONLY GIRLS THAT ARE LIKE 19 TO 24 GET ON MYSPACE!!!"

I said "ya??? that is the type of girls I like!" Girls in the set looked like around 24-26, and they all laughed

He then goes "YOU AND ME BOTH" and then asks me to give him a high five, I said "NO, I can't" and left him hanging he looked like a fool

The other night this worked so well that through out the night girls who I asked this too would come back up as I was in a new set and want to talk about it more, usually the girls that I was getting the vibe from were telling me not to respond to her.

ALSO I am BLOWN away at how into my story girls get once I mention Myspace. The all get 100's of AFC's stalking them down every day on that thing, this way it is like they know what I am going through, and perfect false disqualifier.

Everytime I have used this I # and myspace closed! Shit Gypsy and I .. closed on 2 hired guns at THE LIBRARY last week with this. ( it is a bar/club on Mill which is THE street to party on next to ASU, the girls that work there are in TINY school girl outfits, mine use to work at Hooters!)

Please try not to use this up, OR say it happened to a FRIEND that way if I use it and get called out on it I can say YA THAT IS ME!!!! since it seems like we all like to hang out at Casey Moores! (already met 3 of you guys there)

[Luxberry]

i like this a lot

[lassic]

Very cool.

[LTRtoPUA]

Man I love this forum sometimes lol...

I'll have to say it about a friend, or adapt it likewise.  So many chicks are myspace whores that this is chick crack in itself.  It's like talking about makeup or shopping w/o sounding gay.  ON top of things, a carefully crafted myspace is DHV all in itself since it's all "push" advertising right into their subconcious.

At casey moore's one night, my bud works for the police and parked just right.  The owner (co-owner at least) saw this and was complimenting him and asked how he knew exactly how to space his parking to avoid a ticket, etc.  He then bought us drinks, talk about instant social proof.  However, it seemed that night it was mainly goth folk, a sea of black and no 8-10's in sight

Oh well, maybe I'll run into ya sometimes, we usually meet at the library and then work our way north or south.

[Eclipse]

I love this opener since so many girls are interested in Myspace. If you want to take it a step further, you can bring a digital camera with you in the field and then after you start talking about Myspace, ask the group what their pic is on Myspace and then ask if the target's one of those people who purposely takes pictures looking for the perfect one for Myspace...

If Yes, then you can be like... "So am I..." and take out your camera. Then ask her friend to take a few pictures of you and target for your myspace... Target should smile or laugh and go along with it.

After pics are taken, you look at the pictures with her (building kino as you and her get close in order to look at the pics) and say, "Don't we make such a good couple..."

If No, say, "Well, I totally am? You mind if I take some pics with you just incase we make the perfect picture together... (girl should smile and agree and then follow up with the kino and couple talk... proceed from there.)

You could also use the camera part in order to add or lead into the Mystery Picture Gambit... (where you show the girl a bunch of pictures of you doing adventurous and exciting stuff... or pics with really hot girls in order to build up DHV... )

Please tell me if you use this in the field because I am interested in seeing what circumstances this Camera gambit can work in... and in what it can't... If you use this and get rejected hard, then oh well, suck it up and try again... If you keep failing... try another line...

~Eclipse~

[Flamingo]

Nice! I'd like to try that one.

[poelectrix]

HAHA NICE! I was getting pizza the other day with my boys and by the time i got home the "pizza girls" at the register had tried to add me as  friend on MYSPACE.

One of them liked me the other liked my friend and she wanted is link to myspace. Thats when I busted out with the:

"Its kind of hard to look somebody up when they pay with cash."

It was thoroughly creepy even though they were cute.

[Sky]

Shit dude you sarged The Library!? I love that place, and now im gonna be afraid to use canned material because they've probably heard it before. (good thing I make my own material and memorize it).

Interestingly enough, I've gotten into conversations with a few HBs about that and they actually don't like myspace. They prefer facebook, but its a college thing. Im sure there are parallels and the same can work.

Interesting opener and its more like an FR which lead to a newfound opener. Just hope myspace doesnt get old so we all can still use this haha.

[DOANER]

Great story! In my experience, I bring up MySpace towards the later part of a conversation. I normally ask if they either myspace or facebook. It's subtly and a great way to close!

[Luxberry the Great (mo money mo bitches)]

Great story! In my experience, I bring up MySpace towards the later part of a conversation. I normally ask if they either myspace or facebook. It's subtly and a great way to close!

I did this for like... over a year and then one day a real dominant semi natural dude I know heard me closing like this and he laughed his ass off and almost blew the number close.

About 20 minutes later I realized why he laughed so hard and wondered how many girls I lost doing this.

Closing on the basis of myspace or facebook in PUA is retarded and here is why:

1. It masks/defeats your core INTENT and purpose in pick up. Your purpose is to get laid(presumably), not add a chick to your myspace. Closing to make her your myspace friend is almost instant friend zone. Doesn't seem like it at first but it is. Closing because a girl is "sexy as fuck" or w/e SOI or qualifer you SHOULD have thrown in works waaay better than... omg r u on myspace? give me your number we can be myspace friends. Note... FRIENDS.

2. Its a very low risk way to close. You could do something like... write down your myspace name... and throw your number on there too(ala David Deangelo), but this is very low risk and the girl knows it. You are not stepping up as a man when you close like this. If you are perceived to have a low level of investment in her then she knows this and will act accordingly.

3. You are giving her the chance to gracefully reject you. Myspace is low risk closing tool for you.. its also a low risk blow off tool for her. Blow off either while closing or when you try and contact.

4. You become another number. You aren't Joe from the club on Friday night. You are just random dude she met who became myspace friend #432. This is assuming you actually add her(which I would hardly ever do unless I couldn't get her on the phone/text).

Just some thoughts from closing like this for awhile...

[JDOG]

I actually do what I call a "soft close" if logistically there's no way to really chat very long, or get deeper into comfort.  I'll get email (as I do spend my life online), and then add them to either myspace or facebook... or some other way to make sure we link up on one of those sites.

Other times I'll just get a number, and then follow up with a text asking what her myspace is.. and then following up on there, before meeting up again in person.

This works really well, and I see a high percentage of these girls again.  It's very casual, your not after something, and if done right by creating a cool and socially proofed profile online you should be able to make this work for you.

Yes, of course it's far far better to progress things along in person when you first meet. This is a tool to use under some specific circumstances, such as:

- When I want to be more subtle
- If you need to come off less interested
- When there are social reasons why she would be uncomfortable giving her number and/or making arrangements, due to friends or other people around.
- In order to convey more value and less interest if you calibrate that to be the best approach

You can do this in a way that conveys, "I'm busy" "I'm social" "I'm highly desirable and sought after, and this is how I meet new people." and so on.

[Luxberry the Great (mo money mo bitches)]

Good addition... I should have noted that isn't always a bad idea to myspace close, just generally speaking. I notice I still do it for all the reasons you listed.

[Renaissance]

i feel like myspace is on the way out, im gonna try this opener with facebook instead, but only as an opener, i would never want a girls fb or myspace as my close.

[TicoRicoSuave]

i used this opener tonight as part of Bravo's Pickup Labs testing and it was pure gold for me. It hooked the set like a charm! I actually did a field report about it in my journal on here. Good stuff!

[Renaissance]

i tried this out as a thread during A2 and it also worked nicely, no insane emotions from the girl but it generated some interesting dialogue and kept the ball rolling.