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« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2006, 03:49:56 PM »
You are an inspiration asmokindeal.  Shitty wings definitely bring down an evening.  However, you should also learn how to sarge guys..including your wing.

Negs are HUGE.  It is the most bizarre fucking thing I have ever seen to see a girl change 180 right in front of you after these are thrown out.  They are literally magic.  LEARN FUN AND AMAZING STORIES TO RATTLE OFF from the opener.  "Speaking of this jealous girls, yesterday...blah, blah, blah.

MAKE SURE YOUR SMILE when you say negs.  I have gotten thrown out of a bar for telling one girl she had eyecrummies (I LOVE THIS ONE).  In my eyes, she was semi-attractive and had a vagina and was friends with a waitress, so I assumed she had more social value.  I didn't calibrate.  In her eyes, I had more social value.  Problem is, I was also negging and teasing her super-ugly waitress friend too much before that.  Friend made a scene, and I kept my cool which pissed her off more.  I'm semi attractive and too much "cocky funny" from an attractive guy just comes off as being an asshole (David D. I think).  The owner was cool about it though.

Is that your real color hair...very simple, not insulting, and under the radar.  VERY effective.   10's (hired guns) love "You can call me Mr. Poopy pants". Mystery is right though...10's only.  9's and below will not get it.   Hired guns will find you hilarious.  "Does she have an off switch" - You MUST SMILE when saying this and keep moving.  I REALLY get good results from "You'd look much better with your hair up/down".   "I didn't like you when I first met you"...very effective.  Palm reading "See this line...this is the dork/retard line...its very pronounced with you".

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« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2006, 04:08:07 PM »
Almost forgot.  As my wing pointed out, you should always follow up the eye crummies neg with, "Oh no, its OK.  I/we think eye crummies are cute".   (don't forget to smile big).  My sticking point was that I enjoyed watching them be self-concious so much (b/c of my own insecurities), I forgot that true negs are not insults....THEY ARE COMPLIMENTS...just backhanded ones.  I've noticed that many get negs mixed up with teasing.

Don't wait around for her to pick the imaginary crummies out (reaction seeking).  Just move on with your fun story (Like Mystery says, Drop them like pebbles in a pond).

Any body else ever used this one?

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« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2006, 06:06:27 PM »
If you can master the art of David DeAngelo's cocky funny.........its worth more than gold.  Its basically and extend technique of a neg.  

But the secret is to calibrate it to your looks and personal level of status against the looks and status of the girl.  

For example, I'm no Brad Pitt but there is only a certain level of cocky funny I can get away with.  Most of my negs have to be 10% cocky and 90% funny for them to be successful, and I have to be playful and fun about it.  


The ones I use alot are:

I love your mascara....is it suppose to do that runny thing down the side of your eye?....only 10s

Thats a beautiful belt buckle........I saw the same one at the 99 cent store....8s and up

I love that shirt, it covers up your belly very nicely.....she better be a freaken twig for this to work

You know there is a dress code in this place right?

The best thing to do is take an arrogant statement about her and make it as funny as possible.  This is an art and takes alot of time to build and develop but I swear.........once you've made it apart of your personality, you'll naturally build attraction within the first few minutes of talking to a girl....and every cocky funny statement will pull her closer and closer to you.
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« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2006, 10:12:42 PM »
i truly do believe you can get away with more negs if you're better looking


‘But Alex’ I hear you say, I’m a chode victim, I’m worse than everyone.

‘Shut the fuck up’ I retort.

**argument ends**

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« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2006, 04:14:51 AM »
Today was officially the most frustrating day of "sarging"

My "wing" if I can call him that is in Vegas.  He went with his friend and I didn't really want to sarge in Vegas just yet...So I stayed in town.

About my wing:  He is my younger, much much better looking brother.  He is shy but he is very attractive.  He isn't really a natural because he is shy but he makes up for it with his looks.

So I was looking foward to sarging all day alone.  I figured it would be fun and a new experience.  Well easier said than done.  I got to the location and I just couldn't do it.  I didn't approach even one set.  I felt like the biggest pussy.  

So I figured I would call my friend to sarge with me.  About my friend:  A true blue NATURAL.  Great looking guy that has been a strip club DJ for the last 14 years.  He gets more ass than a toilet seat...without approaching shit.

I was trying to explain to him what to do as my wing.  like not face them when we approch, let me run my game and let me introduce him, not give the target any attention at first bla bla bla.  He just kinda gave me a blank condesending stare and didn't say anything.

He said he was hungry so we went to a restaurant where we had a pretty cute waitress.  I tried to run game but she was so fucking busy and she just wasn't into it at all.  Halfway through eating my other friend calls.  Burned up an hour at the restaurant and made no approches with him.  Bad planning on my part.  

Other Friend:  Anouther NATURAL, 29 yrs old, (im 28 yrs) good looking, charming, very RICH and he is out on the town driving his red convertible Ferarri.  He comes to the restaurant and picks me up in the Ferarri.  I ditch my friend that is the DJ at the strip club and we drive up to scottsdale.  I am trying to explain to him a little about what I am doing with the approches and the openers and everything and he just doesn't get it.  

I spend the rest of the night combating AFC advice from him while we are driving around old town scottsdale in his car.  Shit like "just be yourself"  "this is out of character for you"  "people like you for who you are" "Its all about an attitude" "You sound like a gangster" "Your never going to get laid using that stuff" "That shit (routines, openers, negs) is embarassing" ...and on and on.  (this is the same guy that I went out with last night to hook him up with one of my older friends that is a girl and he fucked her 5 times...last night.  I originally told this chick to bring me one of her friends when we went out with this friend.  Didn't happen.  They wanted to head strait back to his house after our little 3 leged stool of a date.  I laid in the next room and listened to them fuck all night.  This morning he cooked us all breakfast and they went back into the bedroom and I could hear them fuck for the rest of the morning.  I wanted to leave but I didn't know how long they would be and he was my ride.)

This whole episode in the car totally deflated me.  here I am in Scottsdale standing next to a brand new red Ferarri with hot pieces of ass walking all around us and I am just completed deflated.  Didn't approach even one.  I tried to explain why I use canned material and it just made it worse.  His last piece of advise was "maybe your just not ready for it (relationship, sex, happiness...who the fuck knows)".

So I am convinced that I am on the verge of a powerful breakthrough.  I learned a lot tonight:

1.  Don't sarge with NON PUA naturals.
2.  Don't talk about game to anybody out of the community.
3.  I have to get over my fear of sarging alone, immediately.
4.  Only sarge with people that are apart of the community.

In a way I feel relieved about all of this.  I figured these two friends would think it was cool what I am doing.  Not even close.  I don't have to talk about this with them anymore.

Come hell or high water I am going to make 12 approaches tomorrow wing or no wing.

Later

PS.  Coming home and reading your posts made my whole day.  I really appreciate all they you guys said.  Am am going to charge ahead.
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« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2006, 11:57:10 AM »
You know what the difference between a PUA and a Natural is ? Both pua's and naturals do the SAME stuff. Naturals use rutines, they use canned material, they all have stories they like to tell and their behavior changes when they are around woman. PUA does the same things but he is not afraid to talk about exactly what he does. He fine tunes and refines each word, he analizes each of his actions while natural's game is less stractured. I compare game to fighting:
Everyone can fight, some are good fighters and some are bad fighters. Some like to fight and some dont like it. Now some people are really good at fighting cause they've been fighting since they where young they are so good only because they have lots of experience (that would be euqivalent to a natural). A pua is guy who sucks at fighting but who started taking Karate classes. Taking a class wont make you better instantly, a regular fighter will still kick your ass but since your method is based on fine tunning each move insted of just winnig with strength and experience, you will become good eventualy if you keep going to class and at some point you will become better then a natural. But in the end you are both fighters you use similar moves and techniques, you just put more thought into each punch.

So when people tell me "pff, this game bullshit its not for me, i am way above that!!" i just laugh at them cause its like saying, pff karate is for pussies i rather just randomly wave my arms and legs in hope to win. They can and will win after all they are still running game.

So my advice to you. Hang out with naturals just dont tell them about the game. They dont need to know, if they see a cool move they will ask you. But do look at what they are doing, you will notice that they follow the frame, they do rutines, they do CF they just dont know about it. Also relax and just go with it , IT's not a big deal what rutine you use, have fun and enjoy meeting random people.
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« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2006, 10:50:13 AM »
Day 6
Total Sets:  74
Sets Today: 12

Thanks for the advise SkyNet.  Makes a lot of sense.

Had an ok night sarging.  I go in all 12 sets but I did half in Tempe and half in Scottsdale.  This kinda throws me off a little because the females in Scottsdale are a lot better looking than in Tempe.  

I started out alone but I ran into a friend in Tempe.  He followed me around and watched me open sets.  He is a little shy but is good looking.  I was trying to explain what I was doing during the sets and he was pretty receptive.

I am getting better at negging but I still have very weak game after the opening and the first couple of opener routines.  I have no DHV stories to relate.  I have been hesitant to use other peoples personal canned material for this but I am going to have to start.  The only canned material I have heard is from Mystery.  Most of his stories are pretty juicy and I don't know if I have the image to pull it off.  I have been racking my brain for stories  and have come up with a few ideas but I know that I am not calibrated yet and don't know if I am on the right track.

At this point the novelty of just talking to the girls is wearing off and I am getting impatient with my results.  I only have 1 number close and I haven't been able to put together any DHV stories.  I am a magician but I don't know how to do it in my set without looking  Try Hard.  So I just leave it out completely.

I have been going out a lot and I am around all of these beautiful girls daily.  It used to be just a fantasy thinking about having them but now it feels like I deserve one.  It is really frustrating for me now to be talking to a really hot chick knowing that if my game was tight I would have a chance but it isn't tight and It is a long shot at this stage in the game.  I will be standing there talking to this really hot little chick and It feels like I am so close but so far away at the same time.  The object of my desire is 12 inches from my face but she might as well be on the other side of the street because my game isn't there yet and I can't generate attraction.  This is frustrating.

I am going to try to come up with a few DHV stories before I go back out on Wednesday to sarge.

My tonality is getting tight though.  I can get most all to stop and they usually will hang untill the awkward pause when I run out of material.
I feel like I am getting so fucking close.  I have the skills to get them to talk to me but I don't have the material to keep them interested or attracted.  If I can get this one piece down I will make a quantum leap.

Later
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« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2006, 08:30:58 AM »
EpI had an Epiphany this morning about the other night when I was with my two “Natural” friends.  The one with the Ferrari was the most critical.  He gets laid but he does a lot of internet dating and hooking up with his friends, friends.  He does absolutely no cold approaches.

He wasn’t so much being critical of what I was doing but I think he was trying to defend his passive way of hooking up.  It makes him feel uncomfortable that I am doing something that he can’t do and his natural tendancy is to make excuses for himself so that he can still feel good about the passive  way he has chosen to get woman.

I also feel like he is a little afraid that I will get a better looking girlfriend than him and gain higher social status.  He’s always hooked up with 4-7’s and always said hot chick are superficial  bitches.  While we were out every time we would see an 9-10 and I would point her out he would say “what a slut”  or  “look at the way she is dressed, that is embarrassing” or “Scottsdale bitch”.  He’s not used to seeing me approach extremely attractive woman and getting them to open up and laugh.

I think he felt like the beta male was catching up to the Alpha male (him) and he doesn’t like that.  He is subconsciously trying to sabotage my success.  He doesn’t want my social status to change.  What if I surpassed him?  I have always been his friend that is at probably the lowest social status he will accept in a friend.  He feels good about himself when he is with me because he feels like a prince socially.  

Just a random thought I wanted to get down on “paper”.

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« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2006, 08:33:47 AM »
Note:  The above post was submitted by myself Asmokindeal.  I forgot to log in.
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« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2006, 05:35:31 PM »
it's funny that you write the farrari man who thinks of himself as a prince can only hook up with HBmoooolicious'... goes to show it really does take a brain to hook up with the HB8-9-10's.  

Also, it makes me think maybe the good lookin' babes are not really looking for $$$ - they're looking for a good time, and that's what you're getting better at providing them,

stick with it smokindeal!
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« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2006, 07:40:14 PM »
If it was easy and cool to try at something and fail repeatedly to achieve a seemingly impossible goal, everyone would do it.  Then everyone would be a player (and rich too).

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« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2006, 08:09:52 AM »
Quote from: "perineum"
If it was easy and cool to try at something and fail repeatedly to achieve a seemingly impossible goal, everyone would do it.  Then everyone would be a player (and rich too).


That is going up on my wall.  I like that.  

last night I went out and tried to sarge lone wolf.  Again I just couldn't bring myself to do it.  I walked past set after set.  I could't bring myself to open.

I don't know why I can't open a single set by myself.  Usually when I am with my wing he doen't do shit anyway.  I don't think I was really committed to going all the way.  

I'm going out tonight (probably lone wolf) and I will not come back empty handed again.  

Later

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« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2006, 11:20:52 PM »
Day 7
Total Sets 87
Tonight 13
Number closes tonight: 1
Total numbers 2

Tonight was officially the best night of sarging.

I went out with a new wing that I met over at MM.com.  Sun Slayer.

He is doing his newbie mission as well and now has about 32 approaches under his belt.

We really made a good team.  He opened 12 sets and I opened an additional 13 sets for a total of 25 total sets for the night.

Most of our sets went pretty good but my second set I ran like a pro.
Opened with the 2 part kiss opener.
ran probably a total of 6 routines.

The set:  HB 8-8.5  
beautiful girl.

On my 3 routine I did the esp routine.  I hit both numbers and she was going crazy.  I kept running routines, probably 2 more when her brother walks up.  So I am seriously body rocking out of there.  This guy is about 6'2 fairly lean.  He has a hot blonde with him and they are both looking at us like "what the fuck is going on here".  The target (single set) totally complement introduces me to her brother.  She said "Oh my god you got to see this esp trick that he does"  I thinking to myself that this is going to blow the whole set up and make me look like a cheap trickster.

So I am totally trying to back out of it when I think of anouther mental magic trick that I know.  "I will show you something better"  So I ran that routine and it went over even better.  After that was all said and done we were saying good0-bye and we introduced ourselves.  This girls head was spinning from the routine I just did.  

That is when for some reason I was compelled to tell her that I was a magician.  She said "I figured something like that"  and then she said it "let me give you my number and you can show me some more magic sometime."  BAM  number.  So I got the number and we walked away all smooth.  

This was such a confidence builder I cannot even tell you.  Not just because I got the number but because I had enought material memorized to do a 20 minute set with her, and I got the number.

Over the course of the next day I am going to memorize and rehearse some negs because that is the biggest hole in my game.

I totally feel like a new fucking man.  

Later

Asmokindeal

PS.  Being that it is Thursday night when should I call this girl?
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« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2006, 03:49:31 PM »
That was a great set, man. You inspired me  :!:

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« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2006, 04:14:41 PM »
Friday Night
Sets Tonight:  10
Total Sets:  97
Day:  8

Tonight was a lot tougher night.  We went to Tempe and there were a lot of ugs out there so my brother and I decided to head up to Scottsdale.

don't feel like elaborating right now but most sets blew out.
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