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Offline asmokindeal

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« on: June 27, 2006, 01:47:30 PM »
Starting my Newbie Mission tonight.

3 sets an hour
4 hours a night
4 nights a week
6 weeks

=288 sets

I will keep updating this journal after every day that I go out and keep a running total for all to see.

My week will be from Monday-Sunday.  

Wish me luck!
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Day 1, 12/12.
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2006, 09:42:27 PM »
My brother and I went down to Mill avenue and successfully opened 12 sets!  

It took me about 25 minutes of walking past perfectely elegible sets before I got the balls up to open one.  After the first 3 it was very easy.

All night I opened with the Jeolous girl friend opener.  I followed up with the G-String routine and on one occassion I opened a mixed set (2 girls 1 dude) with the 2 part kiss opener.  

All in all It was a very successful night.  Took me about 2 hours.  about 3 or 4 of them just blew me off and kept walking.  I was successful with one set of an HB8 & HB9.  At one point they even jokingly said that they were bitches.  They never at any point were anything but sweet to us though.  I had just come out of my mixed set that went great so I felt invincible.  I gamed them for about 10 minutes.

No numbers or anything but I felt awsome just getting through all 12.
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2006, 01:09:20 PM »
Nice, dude.  Yeah I totally know how you feel... that's the best frame to be in though - not being needy about getting a number or getting this or getting that, it's about just doing the approaches and calibrating by what reactions you get.  You keep doing this on a regular basis and things WILL just start to happen naturally.  Keep it up.

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Day 2, 12/24 total
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2006, 10:58:12 PM »
Quote from: "SuperStar"
 You keep doing this on a regular basis and things WILL just start to happen naturally.  Keep it up.


That is exactly what I needed to hear.

I went out tonight and completed all 12 but I didn't have as much fun as I did last night.  My most successful set was a 3 set, they were young though 17, 17 and 18 years old.  LOL

They would have let us stand there and talk all night.  They were set #11.  I had 1 more after them and it was getting late.  We probably talked for 15 minutes.  

Last night we went to Hooters to warm up and get chatty.  I ran every routine I know and even did a magic trick for our waitress.  I totally had her hooked.  She had other tables but she kept finishing what she was doing and comeing back to sit down with us.  

I know they are paid to do that but I really don't care because it got me in a great mood to go and open sets.  

Does anybody else find it helpful to talk to hired guns just to warm up?  

I found that I can manage my approach anxiety on 2 girl sets but on mixed sets and 3+ sets I really tense up and look for an excuse not to approach.  

Going out tomorrow night again also.  

Have a great night guy's.
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Day 3, 12/36 total
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2006, 01:17:47 AM »
Tonight went good.  I have very little approach anxiety now.  I am able to open sets that would have scared me the first night.

I even opened a couple of mixed set.  I am feeling my confidence grow.  

I need to work on my negs and not giving the target any attention during my opener.  

My game is still pretty loose.  There is really no structure to it.  I know the structure logically (MM) but I am working on following the system.  I guess you could say I still have a pretty weak frame.

It looks like I may be losing my wing man.  He has been pretty negative lately and is kind of a downer.  He won't be able to stay out late here soon and even when he can come out we arent getting allong very well.  I am really making an effort to be positive but he just isn't into it

Anybody want to go out during the week and sarge?  I'm going to be out at least twice during the week and on Friday and Saturday night.  My committment is HUGE on this.  I will go out alone if I have too.  I havn't missed a night or come home with less sets than I had originally planned on and I am really happy with my progress.

I can't believe that I have really opened up 36 sets in 3 days.  That is more sets than I have opened in the last 10 years.

later
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2006, 06:02:26 AM »
Hired guns are AWESOME to warm up on.  I tuned up alot of my intros, negs, and routines on hired guns.  You'll find that when you get better at sarging, its easier on hotties than on duds.

Make sure to watch your body language when approaching.  Always start out with your shoulders and hips turned away from the target and possibly even the set.  When they turn towards you, reward them by turning towards them.  This was a big eye opener for me.

Keep it up.

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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2006, 08:14:42 AM »
Quote from: "perineum"
Hired guns are AWESOME to warm up on.  I tuned up alot of my intros, negs, and routines on hired guns.  You'll find that when you get better at sarging, its easier on hotties than on duds.P.


I did the funniest thing with a hooters waitress last night...I do a routine where I show them a trick with poker chips and then I teach them how to do it.  They get really into it.

Last night the waitress was really trying hard to do this trick and I had my hands all over her hands.  I had to position her fingers, reposition the chips and touch her fingers constantly for about 30 minutes.  I've never seen a chick go so crazy trying to master this one trick.  I was neging her about her hands a lot too...Clumsey, Man hands, spider fingers, rough.

So after a while I tell her to give me her hands.  She did and I started touching the pads on her fingertips.  They were a little greezy from all of the food and everything.  I said "oh your fingers are gross!" and starting wiping my hands off.  She became very self concious and making excuses and blushing.  I grabbed a napkin and rubbed the dry napkin all over the side of my water glass and collected the condensation from it.  I got the napkin good and wet and then I grabbed her hand.  I proceeded to scrub both of her hands with the wet paper towell for about 2 minutes.  She just stood there with her hands out letting me scrub them.  This was one of the highlights of the night.

After that was done I said "I'll bet you've never had a customer clean your hands before."  she started laughing.

Quote from: "perineum"
Make sure to watch your body language when approaching.  Always start out with your shoulders and hips turned away from the target and possibly even the set.  When they turn towards you, reward them by turning towards them.  This was a big eye opener for me.

Keep it up.

P.


I like that, I have also been really working on my tonality when I ask for a female opinnion.
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2/38 First number Close
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2006, 02:11:11 PM »
Sets Tonight:  2
Sets Total:     38
Number Closes: 1

I got my first number last night.  

I went out to a club but really didn't go sarging officially.  I went with some friends and it is so loud you can't even hear yourself think.

later we went to Denny's and I opened a table set with 2 girls.  Went pretty good went through 3 routines and bailed back to my friends.

A few minutes later 2 girls came in and sat down.  (Both realistically 6's but still attractive)  We had 3 tables reserved for a large party and so i was negging them about sitting in our seats.  They were ok cute so I wasn't going to tell them to leave.  The staff tried to get them to leave but I told them that they were with us.

I started negging the target and running a few different routines.  To make a long story short...

At one point I heard heard her tell somebody in our group that I was good looking.  I was getting a lot of IOI and she was laughing at everyting that I said.  I was really on as far as negging her.  She was a good neg target because she was cocky and I can neg the shit out of cocky girls.

As I was leaving she wrote her number and name on a napkin and gave it to me.  I didn't even have to ask.

THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED TO ME IN MY ENTIRE LIFE!

Going out tonight but probably to anouther loud club. I have a real problem sarging in loud environments.  I am going out Sunday night to a low noise environment to sarge for real.  That will complete my first 4 days of sarging for the first week.
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2006, 02:41:22 AM »
HA nice dude!  See what I mean?  Don't even have to try sometimes.  So she's a 6.  gotta start somewhere.  You know you can get a 6's number now (without even asking!).  Your next goal is a 7's. :)

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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2006, 02:41:57 PM »
Quote from: "SuperStar"
You know you can get a 6's number now (without even asking!).  Your next goal is a 7's. :)


LOL, I love it.

Went out on Saturday night to loud clubs again.  Can't talk to people for shit.  I opened 1 set and they could hear me better than I thought.

After 2 am we were outside and I was approaching without any fear.  I was pretty tipsy though.  I opened 6 sets.  Most were at least 7's.

I was planning on going out for an official night on Sunday night but on Saturday night I ended up over at my friends brother's house.  There was a party there and i didn't sleep all night.  Got to bed at 12:00pm on Sunday.  So I slept a few hours and went to meet a friend and came back home and tried to sleep again but was just too exhaused to go out.

I will make up for it this week with an extra day of sarging.

Sets Tonight: 7
Sets Total: 45
Number Closes: 1
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2006, 01:08:24 AM »
Day:  4
Sets Tonight: 12
Sets Total: 57
Number Closes: 1

Tonight went pretty good.  I was pretty much fearless when approaching sets.

It is starting to be obvious to me where my stopping points are.

1.  I am not negging enough.  only when the set really hooks.
2.  I am not picking a target.  I just talk to both in the set and run my routine.

I am not getting hardly any IOI's but I know what I am doing wrong.  I am planning on spending a lot of time rehearsing my routines and learning one or two new routines in addition to some negs this week.

On a brighter note.  Hardly any sets are blowing out right away like it used to be.  I can get even girls that are committed to walking past to usually stop and listen to me.

I still have a lot of work to do though.

Later
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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2006, 03:25:12 PM »
It sounds like you're getting some great experience...my game never soared more than when I started going out by myself and doing 10+ approaches a night...6 days a week...totally obsessive.

A little free advice...for number closes:

-  Go through your regular routines like you've been doing

-  When you feel the conversation dieing or you just run out of shit to do/say, following these simple steps

1.  Excuse youself "Hey it was nice talking to you...bla bla
2.  Turn your back, take 2 steps, turn back around
3.  Tap her on the shoulder and say..."Hey, do you have email?"
4.  If she says "No" you say "Well, do you have electricty?"
     She'll laugh and then you say, we'll do you have a phone...then write   down you're number (Be really asseritve and have a pen/paper ready)

     If she says "Yes" you say "Well, write your email down"

5.  As she's writing the email say "Write your number down while you're at it"

Now you have an email and a phone number and I've planned dates with both.  You can ask SuperStar...he's seen me do this a dozen times.  This originally came from David Deangelo.


If you're looking for a foolproof method to get a girl to call you back, shoot me a message.  I've never not gotten a call back with this method.   Goodluck...you'll be a PUA in no time.
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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2006, 04:28:51 PM »
You've done like 60 sets and your approach anxiety now seems minimal so spice it up more as suggested with more number closes. It's key to keep the same frame, but if a set goes well and runs over 15 minutes, work on that aspect of your skill set and go for the #

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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2006, 07:24:18 AM »
Day 5
Sets:  5
Total Sets: 62

Last night was disapointing,

I went out with my wing and by 10:00pm he wanted to go home.  I only had 5 sets under my belt.  So I went home defeated without my 12 sets.

I was bummed.

I defenantly becoming more and more aware of my biggest sticking point....Negs.

I am way to polite.

What are you guys favorite first couple of negs?

Thanks for the advice about the number closes.  I haven't been working that angle at all.  In fact I think I have bailed out of a few interested sets after I was out of material.  I was simply so focused on what to say that I was oblivious to IOI.  

It would occur to me when I would say "later guys" and they would stand there for an extra second like they didn't want me to leave, that It occured to me that they didn't want it to end.  After we were gone my wing and I would talk about it.

I am defenantly getting better at projecting my voice and pulling them in even when they are just trying to plow through.

Thanks for the input guys.  I really appreciate it.

Asmokindeal
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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2006, 03:42:05 PM »
Negging is a delicate art. Remember you don't want to insult them, it's more of a backhanded compliment, if you do it right. Something like "Your hair looks really nice, is it real?" is an example, but make sure the neg fits the context.

I find clothing is usually a better neg material than physical features. If you say something to a girl with LSE about her nose, the chances of her misinterpreting the neg are greater than with her shoes. She can change her shoes. She can't change her nose (unless she lives in Scottsdale, in which case, she probably already has and you now making fun of her hard-earned money/surgery)

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