PickUp101 seminar # Tip

[*shanghai]

I attended the last, according to them, free Pickup101 seminar in SF last night. Lance is good. Very smooth and natural. I got a brilliant piece of the puzzle out of his presentation. It nicely solved a real sticking point that I've had lately.

Mainly, I am getting #s 90% of the time I go out, but almost all are flakes.

Here's what to do according to Lance;

First, get the girl to agree to meet you at a certain time & place. Say, a dinner party you and you'r friends are having where have wine and get up and perform.

Only after setting a meet time do you get her #.

Then, Call her phone right there. Wait for ther to answer it and then talk about how you met this cute chick named (her name) and how she really likes you, riff on this. Then say "when I call you at noon on (dinner party day) I want you to say, Oh Shanghai, It's you! I've been waiting for you to call all day!" in an exited voice. Make her do it in front of you.

That's a lot different than what I've been doing.

[*shanghai]

Shoulda' posted in the workshop/seminar review section.

[Role Model]

That's quite good Shanghai!  I've just gotten back into the game and although I've got a few #'s, all of em have turned out to be flaking.  I'm gonna try that technique.

Role Model

[Wayout]

Isn't that a Mystery method?..I believe it is. The other tactic you can use if you get flakes a lot is asking them: "what are the chanced you are not going to show up?" ..David D.

[uga]

Isn't that a Mystery method?..I believe it is. The other tactic you can use if you get flakes a lot is asking them: "what are the chanced you are not going to show up?" ..David D.

You: On a scale of 1 to 10 how likely are you to flake out?  Cause I have a huge pet peeve that I don't like it when girls flake out... so on a scale of 1 to 10...

Her: Uhhh... 3.

You: You know what, nevermind, I won't even bother if there is THAT much chance you are gonna flake.

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Mystery Thing
When I call you I don't want you to be like "uhhh who's this?", I want you to be and sound very excited when I call and when we do meet you have to give me the warmest smile and embrace me with a big hug and I'll extend my hand and you'll take it.  Ok, deal?

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I think the Mystery one was something like that, dunno, I got it from a friend and you know that by word of mouth things get distorted.  

[gerberho]

how do u guys have the balls to pull shit off like this?

[BabyFace]

Gerb, here's how you have the balls.  Try something the next time you meet a girl.  If you can stay in set with her for more than 10 minutes, at the end of the conversation, point at your cheek and say "kiss".  This is TM Mystery or Style I can't remember.  But it works for me 100% of the time.  I've NEVER had it fail.

The reason is, women fundamentally desire, at least in my opinion, to have somebody else take charge of the situation for them.  When a guy finds a way, such as the above mentioned techniques, to eliminate the social awkwardness of calling people you don't know well, they'll take it.

How do you know you can't pull it off too if you haven't tried it?

[SuperStar]

I have done a variation of that where you ask the girl to give her your phone (if you have some attraction and are being alpha, she'll give it to you) and you dial your number in, press send, and hand it back to her and say "you're calling me."  Then you answer your phone, and say all enthusiastically "Hey, I'm so glad you called!" and whatever else... it's fun to say like "I was at XXX bar tonight and I met this girl, she's pretty cute but she's kinda weird, I'm not sure if I really like her yet"... playfully and like if you busted on her for something before that bring it up again.

Also I have learned that you get a much lower flake rate if you get through A3 (going by the mystery method) before asking for the number.  It makes her feel like you actually had a reason that you want to get to know her, rather than just going by looks alone.

[poelectrix]

asking the girl about flaking? i can't bag on that cause i havent tried it. At the same time, it seems like if you're getting flakes then there is some element you are doing wrong.

i've recently stumbled upon some info with sound advice i hadn't heard in a while.  mention the dinner party or whatever you will be inviting her to, bring it up with your wing, or somehow in conversation "i'm really excited for this dinner party we're having next tuesday, i havent done that in forever"

do not invite her, not yet.  later on in the convo, mention, "you know, you could be fun at that dinner party, you would definatley be the wild card"

her: "what does that mean?"
you: (think of something creative, or...) "someone new and interesting for the group to meet"

phone number close

THEN

stay in convo for a few more minutes, it is bad game tactics if you get the number and jet, it also is awkward, so chat for a few minutes and then tell her that you have to go find your friend or whatever

[JDOG]

poelectrix.. good tactics.. good post.. everything you said is true

[poelectrix]

thanks,  i try to make sure anything i post is solid before i give it as advice, i'll have to credit this to style, although i'm sure there are more influences

[JDOG]

thanks,  i try to make sure anything i post is solid before i give it as advice, i'll have to credit this to style, although i'm sure there are more influences

Actually this comes from a discussion on the original Mystery's Lounge from a couple of years ago.